How bad is it in Iraq?
This bad
Things might be "bad" in Iraq when we leave, but that is not the same as arguing things are "good" in Iraq if we stay.
What makes sense to me is renouncing our permanent bases in Iraq, giving a deadline for troop withdrawal, and apologizing to the world community for over-reaching in the aftermath of 911.
If Iraqis fought this hard against Sadam then they might be a freer people, but as Bill Parcells likes to say, "If if's and but's were candies and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas."
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